Comments on: CakePHP http://john-hunt.com/2006/11/17/cakephp/ Linux, open source, development, coding, beer and other stuff Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:47:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Blog http://john-hunt.com/2006/11/17/cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-125 Blog Fri, 07 Dec 2007 00:08:32 +0000 http://www.john-hunt.com/uncategorized/2006/11/17/cakephp/#comment-125 Its totally true CakePHP doesn't have a real good documentation. But i must say it keeps getting better so i am looking forward to next releases of CakePHP. I like to browse around in the api.cakephp.org directory :) take care, Michelle Its totally true CakePHP doesn’t have a real good documentation. But i must say it keeps getting better so i am looking forward to next releases of CakePHP. I like to browse around in the api.cakephp.org directory :)

take care,
Michelle

]]> By: Bo http://john-hunt.com/2006/11/17/cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-124 Bo Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:23:01 +0000 http://www.john-hunt.com/uncategorized/2006/11/17/cakephp/#comment-124 I like your analysis and totally agree on the fact that Cake is not that well documented. A framework like CodeIgniter has a good documentation, but doesn't allow an as easy MVC model as Cake does. I also found your site by searching for many-to-many relationships in CakePHP. Hope I'll find something usefull. regards I like your analysis and totally agree on the fact that Cake is not that well documented. A framework like CodeIgniter has a good documentation, but doesn’t allow an as easy MVC model as Cake does.

I also found your site by searching for many-to-many relationships in CakePHP. Hope I’ll find something usefull.

regards

]]> By: Vangelis http://john-hunt.com/2006/11/17/cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-123 Vangelis Tue, 01 May 2007 17:59:41 +0000 http://www.john-hunt.com/uncategorized/2006/11/17/cakephp/#comment-123 The single reason most open source projects like cake choose to "touch" the simplicity of SQL is that there is no ANSI SQL anywhere. The only way to make a framework's code readable (and workable) by everyone is to somehow get rid of SQL. The problem with this method is that instead of learning SQL flavors you must learn SQL workarounds. However till someone big comes up with a widely acceptable SQL wrapper we have no choice than to hide sql. The single reason most open source projects like cake choose to “touch” the simplicity of SQL is that there is no ANSI SQL anywhere. The only way to make a framework’s code readable (and workable) by everyone is to somehow get rid of SQL.

The problem with this method is that instead of learning SQL flavors you must learn SQL workarounds. However till someone big comes up with a widely acceptable SQL wrapper we have no choice than to hide sql.

]]> By: Dustin Weber http://john-hunt.com/2006/11/17/cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-122 Dustin Weber Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:22:05 +0000 http://www.john-hunt.com/uncategorized/2006/11/17/cakephp/#comment-122 John, I think there are some things to work through when getting used to Cake, but with a little bit of work and some head-scratching I haven't come across anything yet that has stopped me. Even though it's a bad practice, I agree... Cake really isn't a hindrance because you can always ignore the framework and do things your own way. Obviously, that can cause problems long term... but it helps when you just can't figure something out and are tired of trying (which hasn't happened to me yet). Regardless, what Cake does provide is increased efficiency, increased standardization (important when working in groups), maintainable code, and a huge community of people interested and willing to help. IMHO, it just works. - Dustin Weber John,

I think there are some things to work through when getting used to Cake, but with a little bit of work and some head-scratching I haven’t come across anything yet that has stopped me.

Even though it’s a bad practice, I agree… Cake really isn’t a hindrance because you can always ignore the framework and do things your own way. Obviously, that can cause problems long term… but it helps when you just can’t figure something out and are tired of trying (which hasn’t happened to me yet).

Regardless, what Cake does provide is increased efficiency, increased standardization (important when working in groups), maintainable code, and a huge community of people interested and willing to help.

IMHO, it just works.

- Dustin Weber

]]> By: Darryl Porter http://john-hunt.com/2006/11/17/cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-121 Darryl Porter Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:47:08 +0000 http://www.john-hunt.com/uncategorized/2006/11/17/cakephp/#comment-121 I've been searching the web far and wide for a php framework for weeks. I tried almost all of them (most fall flat on their face because of lack of documentation). However, the cake documentation is quite good compared to many that are out there. If you use the documentation in conjuction with the API most things become clear. However, the reason I landed hear is because I did a search "cakephp many-to-many". I still searhing for how to do it. I’ve been searching the web far and wide for a php framework for weeks. I tried almost all of them (most fall flat on their face because of lack of documentation). However, the cake documentation is quite good compared to many that are out there. If you use the documentation in conjuction with the API most things become clear. However, the reason I landed hear is because I did a search “cakephp many-to-many”. I still searhing for how to do it.

]]> By: Paul Herron http://john-hunt.com/2006/11/17/cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-120 Paul Herron Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:50:38 +0000 http://www.john-hunt.com/uncategorized/2006/11/17/cakephp/#comment-120 Hi John, Having to set up models can seem like overkill if you're knocking up a quick and simple website, but they become really useful when it comes to things like establishing data validation rules or setting up relationships between database tables. I often use something like a findAll() statement to get my data, using the $sql, $order and $limit parameters to fine-tune the query where necessary, but I do hear people saying they prefer doing a query() because they're more comfortable with the standard SQL syntax. I agree about the documentation. Unfortunately there's no real alternative at the moment to scrabbling around on the documentation site, wiki, IRC channel and Bakery to find what you need. Hopefully the new Bakery site will become popular very quickly, and help to get that information centralised! Hi John,

Having to set up models can seem like overkill if you’re knocking up a quick and simple website, but they become really useful when it comes to things like establishing data validation rules or setting up relationships between database tables.

I often use something like a findAll() statement to get my data, using the $sql, $order and $limit parameters to fine-tune the query where necessary, but I do hear people saying they prefer doing a query() because they’re more comfortable with the standard SQL syntax.

I agree about the documentation. Unfortunately there’s no real alternative at the moment to scrabbling around on the documentation site, wiki, IRC channel and Bakery to find what you need. Hopefully the new Bakery site will become popular very quickly, and help to get that information centralised!

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